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New Horizons: A community consultationJanuary 2012 feedback

Thank you to everyone who came along to our last consultation event at the end of January where we presented two design options. Thank you also to those of you who left comments on our Facebook page, everyone’s feedback was very helpful. Congratulations to our prize draw winners, Mr and Mrs Jeffrey of Taverner Close who won £25 of shopping vouchers.

The two options are shown in order of preference although, it was a very close call between them both. Many of you supporting the regeneration of the area didn’t have a preference and are keen to see the improvements go ahead.

We’ve used all your feedback and worked closely with the Resident’s Design Team to develop a final plan that will be on display at the Hall for All and on our website at the end of March.

Option AOption A

  • 44% of residents who attended the consultation preferred this option
  • 16% of residents didn’t mind either Option A or B
  • 8% of residents who attended did not want any redevelopment

What you like:

  • Provides bigger green space
  • All homes overlook the field
  • Motorbikes can’t go straight through the field

What you don’t like:

  • Homes too near to the trees
  • The drive to houses at the end of Westray Close is too long

 

 

 

Option B

Option B

  • 32% of residents who attended preferred this option
  • 16% of residents didn’t mind Option A or B
  • 8% of residents did not want any redevelopment

What you like:

  • Like the idea of a separate dog walking area
  • Like the openness of the woods
  • Better than being built too close to the woods

What you don’t like:

  • The area at the back is hidden from view
  • More chance of anti-social behaviour

 

 

 

 

December 2011 feedback

Thank you to everyone who came along to our consultation events in November and congratulations to our prize draw winner, Mr Ellis of Taverner Close, who won £25 of shopping vouchers.

We had some great feedback at the events and online too. The design options shown at the consultation are included here in order of preference together with a summary of what you’ve told us so far.

Preferred optionPreferred option

What you like:

  • That the open space is more accessible to the wider community
  • That houses face onto the green space making it feel safer
  • That all ages of young people can be catered for with the open areas

What you don't like

  • That the increase in the number of roads could cause traffic problems

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other options

What you like:

  • That there are more new homes
  • That the green space is well used and mature

What you don’t like:

  • That there are too many homes
  • That too much of the open space is used
2nd option

What you like:

  • That most of the open space is kept
  • That fewer homes would be built
  • That there would be less disruption to wildlife

What you don’t like:

  • That the open space would still be underused
  • That the design doesn’t address the problems with anti-social behaviour in the park and woodland
3rd option

What you like:

  • That it keeps the small area of green space

What you don’t like:

  • That it doesn’t deal with anti-social behaviour issues with motorbikes accessing the green area
  • That it doesn’t give better access to the open space for the wider community
4th option

October 2011 feedback

Thank you to everyone who came along to our community consultation events last month and congratulations to our prize draw winner, Jeanette Patching of Freemantle Close, who won £25 of shopping vouchers.

We had some great feedback and this newsletter includes a summary of what you told us about the housing, parking, garages, open space, play area, woods, lighting, landscaping, anti-social behaviour and other issues that are very important to you. If you weren’t able to come along you can still have your say. Here is a complete list of the feedback you gave us at the community consultation week in September:

Housing

What you like

What you don't like

What you would like to see instead

  • Like the size of bedrooms in the maisonettes
  • Would like us to modernise existing buildings and make stairs safer
  • Keep the maisonettes, get rid of the flats and make pitched roofs
  • Would like to move as soon as possible
  • Current homes are a good size
  • Nothing wrong with maisonettes – very spacious

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • No insulation in properties very cold
  • Condensation problems – windows need to be replaced
  • Design of properties is wrong
  • Maisonettes are not safe for children
  • Houses expensive to heat
  • Broken sheds – more storage needed and loft space
  • Fire risk on upper levels
  • Pull down Freemantle and leave the rest
  • Maisonettes are a dump
  • Don’t like two storey one bed flats – prefer house with garden
  • Fire risk in blocks
  • Heating is dreadful, needs updating
  • Better insulation in homes needed
  • Do not whitewash houses if not regenerating
  • If I could move I would move yesterday – the sooner the better
  • Don’t like it at all – it’s a dump – whole neighbourhood is awful; this is a drug neighbourhood
  • Flats are cold even with heating on
  • As much as I love it here I do think they should be pulled down
  • I can up my hands up in the joins in the concrete – it’s falling apart
  • Big damp problems – have had to replace the floor three times
  • Leaks from upper floor into maisonette
  • Existing drainage problems within Freemantle
  • Bulldoze the lot
  • This is a good opportunity to move
  • Whilst the homes are a good size  the access, lighting and security is very poor
  • The housing wouldn’t be missed
  • Children rollerblade along the decking and you can hear it in the flats
  • Children also get onto the flat roofs - dangerous
  • Flats have too high a window to look out onto the playing field
  • Too noisy and not enough privacy – youths gather on the deck ways
  • Can sometimes have problems with flat users spitting, urinating into maisonette’s gardens – police have been involved
  • Damp problems – difficult to keep houses warm
  • Problem with urine on the stairs
  • Stairwells ice up
  • Stairs are slippery and would like to see wider staircases with more security
  • Design of stairwells and deck ways allow for anti social behaviour
  • Young people and adults gather on the stairs – smoking, drinking, arguing – very intimidating – don’t complain as fear of reprisals
  • Stairs too narrow to get a buggy up
  • Access to upper levels needs to be blocked off and used only for residents
  • Stairways poorly designed and a security issue
  • Staircases notorious for drug dealing due to poor lighting and observation
  • Stairwells pokey and steep
  • Would support the demolition of the flats if they were replaced with decent housing
  • Would like to see more traditional brick houses with front and back gardens and a garden gate
  • Size of house and look out onto the field is what I love.  I would like a new maisonette with front and back garden
  • House with driveway to make it easier for my disabled husband to get in and out of car Two bedroom preference for flats
  • Don’t want more blocks of flats
  • More family housing needed
  • Need for four bedroom houses
  • Need lockable cupboards
  • Wants a new flat to live in
  • Would like to see houses and flats with gardens
  • Do not want small houses
  • Would love a garden for my grandchildren
  • Boarded loft space important
  • Would like a front and back garden
  • Would like to move to Limes Park
  • Like two level houses
  • More houses for couples without children needed
  • Don’t like design of homes at Oakridge and Popley – wouldn’t like that here – problems with damp and parking issues
  • Better mix of housing and good interaction with existing houses needed – not them and us
  • Balcony important in a flat as I have a house cat
  • Lofts would be good – not enough storage
  • Some garages needed in the new homes
  • Area needs decent family sized homes with gardens
  • Lockable sheds if demolishing garages
  • Do not isolate the new housing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Open space

What you like

What you don't like

What you would like to see instead

  • Important to keep the open space but improve it
  • This is well used for bikes, playing tennis, football and dog walking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Dangerous, uneven surface
  • Open space looks tired now
  • Underused, anti social behaviour, dog fouling
  • Children can’t play on it unsupervised
  • Too much open space
  • No football there now since 2 years ago
  • I’d walk around anywhere in Oakridge but not down there on my own, not even with my dog
  • Don’t feel safe at night there – wouldn’t let my wife go out alone with me.
  • Sometimes play football at midnight there – and raves until 4am in the morning
  • Don’t want to compromise outside space
  • Field is used by dog walkers
  • Don’t want the open space touched
  • Problem with dog fouling
  • Use it for scooters and ride their bikes there – kids play football and fly kites – keeps them away from the road

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Like the field but level it out for wheel chair users
  • Would like to see homes around the green area
  • Space for festival would be good
  • Would like outdoor gym equipment provided
  • Supportive of 10-30% loss of playing field area if brought into central location with housing around the green area
  • Mini pitches would be beneficial
  • Keep the field – its well used
  • Safety is an issue in the amenity space
  • It’s pitch black at night – needs a lot of money spent on it
  • Bring the road round into Freemantle and into the field for new housing
  • Lighting on the field would be good
  • Flatten it for mobility scooters and buggys – get rid of the steps
  • Paths leading to woods and play area
  • Would like smaller open space with houses overlooking the area
  • Welcome improvements, better access to the open space and housing wrapping around it to make it more secure and open it up to more people to use
  • Would like to see gym equipment for adults installed - like in Southampton
  • Improved youth facilities
  • Landscape it with a central area and small children's park
  • Use green area for facilities
  • Would like to see paths, five a side football and nature trail
  • Picnic area would be good
  • Suggestion for the council to transfer the open space to Sentinel so one organisation maintains it
  • Needs to be accessible for mobility scooters
  • Kick about area with goals is a good idea
  • Bring it more into use for the wider community

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Children's play area

What you don't like

What you would like instead

  • Under used due to play equipment, broken glass and position
  • Wouldn’t let my children play there as hooded gangs and bad language
  • Too far away from the houses

 

 

 

 

  • Update play area and make it more central
  • Cllr Jane Frankham got funding through Popley Festival for new playpark – can we get it for our area?
  • There should be a better range of children’s facilities
  • Toddler play equipment needed
  • Keep play area away from dog walking area
  • It’s too old fashioned – we should be consulted if you plan a new play area – it should be well thought out
  • Need park facilities for older children as well
  • Want a safer play area with better equipment
  • Adventure playground would be good with tunnels like Eastrop playground – do it like that – make it kid friendly – Oakridge is good too

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Woodlands

What you like

What you don't like

What you would like to see instead

  • Woods are nice for nature
  • Great for dog walkers
  • Good noise barrier to the motorway

 

 

 

 

 

  • Do not feel safe in the woods
  • Burnt out cars
  • Drug use
  • Told it’s horrible but used to be quite nice to walk through until the kids took over with their bikes
  • Ride their motorbikes through there
  • Haven’t been up there for years
  • Allegations of organised dog fighting in the woods by the play area on a Sunday
  • Waste of a bit of countryside
  • It’s an obstacle course there
  • Needles found there
  • Would like to keep the woods but make them safer – less remote
  • Keep allotments and wooded area and maybe consider picnic area
  • Better management of woodland areas
  • Would like woodland to be fenced off as a non useable area and thinned out

 

 

 

 

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Garages

What you like

What you don't like

What you would like to see instead

  • Keep the garages
  • Some are used for small businesses eg mechanics
  • Some residents rely on them for storage

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Number of garages have been broken into – not safe
  • Children play near the garages and this can be a safety issues as cars come round the corner – not safe for them.
  • Wouldn’t leave anything in a garage – they get broken into
  • Don’t like kids playing in the garage courts
  • Children should not play in garage areas
  • Lots of graffiti
  • Garage areas need more lighting
  • Not safe for children playing near garages. Accident waiting to happen
  • If garages were got rid of then a number of residents would need help in moving the items to another garage.
  • Want ample garages provided to store a sports car in
  • No need for garages
  • Won’t need garages if loft space available
  • Would need garage spaces
  • Should be more “No Ball Games” signs in garage areas
  • There are too many garages – parking situation could be improved

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Parking

What you don't like

What you would like to see instead

  • Too many cars parking on the road
  • Car parks are under used
  • Car often gets a football
  • Visibility on the roads a problem – need yellow lines on the bends
  • Noise problem from parked cars
  • Unattractive concrete
  • Car park too big as designed for football coaches
  • Car parking areas do not look very nice
  • Better parking needed
  • Parking spaces are better than lots of garages
  • Would like parking outside house
  • Allocated parking would be good
  • Private driveways needed with allocated bays

 

 

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Lighting

  • New lighting in the neighbourhood is better but it wasn’t consulted on and lights were put in odd places
  • Would like to see lighting in the open spaces to make it feel a lot safer
  • Need light in underpass
  • New street lighting horrible – still really dark outside my house
  • There is special lighting you can buy that gives people a headache after 10 minutes – useful for where there is drug dealing on the stairwells and alleyways – you should investigate this – they use it on the trains in the toilets

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Rubbish

  • There is a rubbish problem. It will get worse with this one bin per household.  People come and dump their rubbish in the big bins from elsewhere.  It isn’t fair.  The bin situation should be looked at.
  • Rubbish in gardens and in streets – fly-tipping in the road
  • Closer recycling near the park but not to be vandalised
  • Need proper bins and dog bins
  • Clear ownership of bins as anyone can use them

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Trees and landscaping

  • Do not want to see more trees – problems with leaves and sap
  • Don’t want soft landscaping as no one looks after the shrubs and bushes once they are planted
  • So many weeds around the trees
  • Concrete jungle – improve it but don’t add trees unless they can be looked after properly
  • Get rid of the trees – roots splitting the concrete
  • Landscaped areas need to be maintained
  • We have an issue with the trees now, no sun as it blocks it out, all sap – do not want trees near houses
  • Remove sycamore trees – too sticky – replace with prettier trees

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Anti-social behaviour

  • Cars dumped in area under underpasses
  • Mini motor bikes have been a problem on the field in the past
  • Drug dealing needs to be sorted

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More comments

  • Would like a youth centre with more activities for youths
  • Pigeons are a problem
  • Would support regeneration scheme if they could move back
  • Encourage parents to take responsibility for their children
  • Reduce green space and reduce number of houses
  • Would like a neighbourhood watch scheme for the area
  • Good neighbours and community here.  Would like to move back with the same neighbours
  • Too many broken walls and fences
  • Keep the allotments
  • No one talks to anyone
  • Renovate area not regenerate
  • Nice neighbours
  • Lots of alleyways
  • Some people don’t want gardens
  • More bungalows
  • Buses are good access to town
  • Lots of weeds
  • Road surface at top of Freemantle Close is very rough and needs improving
  • Good location for train station
  • Would like to see skate park improved
  • Won’t support regeneration of area but any new scheme must have lots of open space and play areas
  • Support regeneration but don’t want to move back
  • Improve the infrastructure of fencing and paths around the estate
  • Allotments are well used
  • Vehicle access needed during construction
  • Look at area at back of Freemantle Close – the footpath is a rat run – it is the motorbike connection to the woods.  Look to gate it off for residents.
  • Secure bike storage would be good
  • Alternative route for construction needed not roads
  • Concerned about construction traffic route

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